Then again, I also think getting someone drunk or high so that they'll agree to sex is rape. Very turned on so that they agree is sort of a grey area, but probably also rape.
Maybe rape is too strong a word. But taking someone who clearly would not agree to certain things, and then turning them on to the point where, fuck yes, they'll agree to anything, isn't right. I don't want to be the cause of someone's morning-after regret.
*Getting someone turned on, I dunno, if you don't use anything aside from your charm, that's sort of fair, isn't it. It's sort of the point.* The person still has one's faculties and free will then , I suppose that's the difference. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, good or bad, and be convinced or swayed by arguments, but I suppose the difference between persuasion/temptation and force/coercion is allowing the subject the use of his/her faculties to decide and the chance to say no.
If I may take it a step further away from the serious discussion, what if someone is very, very beautiful? It's something that works to their advantage in getting people to sleep with them, definitely. Pretty makes people stupid.
Boobs make people stupid. Just the existence of them.
Well. Beauty might help, it might also not - any way it is another thing that makes people put people in boxes. Which it is hard to get out of. But. In case of a pair of very very pretty boobs and no other factors, it is only my own stupidity if I chase them without the thought of consequence. If I wage the consequences and still decide to go after the boobies, it's my decision, I take responsibility. If someone else takes away from me the responsibility of deciding 'this is ME deciding to lust after those boobs', it sucks and I am prefectly justified to punch and troutslap said person. In this world there is so little that is ever truly one's own, so, I kinda resent if someone takes my responsibility and makes it his/her own. I guess thats my basic beef with these things in theory.
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sparklebutch) wrote2008-02-09 08:23 am
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Getting someone turned on, I dunno, if you don't use anything aside from your charm, that's sort of fair, isn't it. It's sort of the point.
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Yeah, I suppose that's something that needs to be discussed first, before things start.
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The person still has one's faculties and free will then , I suppose that's the difference. Everyone has the freedom to make decisions, good or bad, and be convinced or swayed by arguments, but I suppose the difference between persuasion/temptation and force/coercion is allowing the subject the use of his/her faculties to decide and the chance to say no.
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Boobs make people stupid. Just the existence of them.
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But. In case of a pair of very very pretty boobs and no other factors, it is only my own stupidity if I chase them without the thought of consequence. If I wage the consequences and still decide to go after the boobies, it's my decision, I take responsibility. If someone else takes away from me the responsibility of deciding 'this is ME deciding to lust after those boobs', it sucks and I am prefectly justified to punch and troutslap said person.
In this world there is so little that is ever truly one's own, so, I kinda resent if someone takes my responsibility and makes it his/her own. I guess thats my basic beef with these things in theory.